@andreyorst a lot of your comment is colored by an exceptionally positive view of Reddit, which I think is far from universal. Some love it, some consider is a dumpster fire to be avoided at all costs. I personally like it but think it doesn’t tend to lend itself to long-form discussions. Karma farming and memes, hot takes and what just happened tends to be its nature – and I don’t see much interesting discussion happening on it. God knows I tried (I moderate /r/vim, stepping down soon as I now use Kakoune full time).
This hub is pretty much self-existing, and hard to be discovered, because it doesn’t mentioned anywhere but kakoune.com which looks like some fan-made site, not an official page.
It is a fan-made page. Building a community like this can take years, and I am more than willing to do the time to build trust in the community by being up consistent, having no heavy handed moderation and just doing the job I set out to do. I don’t care if it is a 2 month plan or a 10 year plan. I was in the vim community for over 2 decades, and owned/moderated #vim for over 15 years (transitioning away as I use Kakoune full time)… I was moderating #vim before Reddit was even in beta. It didn’t exist in any form.
It should be mentioned in pinned post at r/kakoune, and at kakoune.org if you want more people to discover this place
Agreed, ask has been made by multiple people (including myself). Had pushback from some people (for IMHO a bit unfair reasons), so I will simply let this site exist on its own until it either naturally becomes the place for communication about Kakoune, or it fails and I will point it to kakoune.org. I have no ego in this, I just found the options (including Reddit) to not work very well – the IRC is the most active place and it is fleeting and not time shifted. I felt being a part of the community was made harder by having a (seemingly dead / no replies) sub-reddit and an IRC channel you could only participate in if you were on at the right time or have a bouncer.
Reddit is more than enough to be hub for Kakoune users, and if it will be popular it would be able to show other people that community is strong.
I disagree (obviously). Please point me to you favorite tool subreddit that you feel has a good community having interesting conversations. Your view of a great example to emulate, and then if you find that – dig into the moderation structure, how do they do it? Is it a few inactive moderators and a default subreddit featureset – or is it actively moderated? Again, I moderate a fair sized community (75,000 or so users) on Reddit – and I haven’t liked the experience one bit. Again, I don’t care where the great community hub is – I just want it to exist and be time shifted and accessible (so not IRC).
To summarize what I meant: the less popular community hub aggregator was chosen over one of the most popular community hub aggregator because of ability to reply by email.
But it was only chosen by the users, it has received zero official support, it has zero advantages, and gets less direct linkage than any of the others. @mawww is an admin on here, and I told him if he ever wants the domain it is his. He has taken a very hands off / light touch. He has only ever used it as a user, same as you or anyone else, it is new – takes time to build up any sort of trust.
I think on a longer timeline than you might be thinking of – a community place like this will show its value. But I think it makes sense to look at the timeline in terms of years rather than months.