AI 'Prompt Stuffing' for the Kakoune.asciidoc documentation

Does/Has anyone have any suggestions or improvements on a ‘Prompt’ or ‘Model’ for improving Kakounes’ documentation with the help of an AI?

Similar topic 2019: @Screwtapello
Rewriting/Reorganising Kakounes Documentation

Currently experimenting with ollama create kakoune-docs -f ./Modelfile

# Modelfile
FROM cogito:8b
PARAMETER temperature 0.6
PARAMETER num_ctx 32768
PARAMETER min_p 0.0
PARAMETER top_p 0.95
PARAMETER top_k 20
SYSTEM You are a Senior Writer that specializes in Technical and Support Documentation.
SYSTEM If you dont know, say "I do not know.".
SYSTEM Enable deep thinking subroutine.

Prompt

Please review the below ‘Buffers’ documentation for the Kakoune text editor and suggest improvements for its; readability, structure, context, technical explanations, examples, and formatting.

The focus should be on clear explanations of concepts for new users with technical details that help both new and experienced users. The documentation should be more user-friendly, comprehensive, and easier to follow.
[buffers.asciidoc]

Prompt

Please provide in AsciiDoc format a revised version of the Buffers documentation with all your suggested improvements to make the documentation more comprehensive, user-friendly, and easier to follow for both new and experienced users.

AI Response

This revised documentation:

  • Provides clear organization and logical flow
  • Includes more context and examples
  • Separates simple explanations from technical details
  • Uses consistent formatting with visual cues
  • Offers practical usage scenarios for new users
  • Includes technical depth for experienced users

Here’s the complete revised documentation in AsciiDoc format:

buffers.asciidoc
= Buffers

== Introduction

Buffers are temporary containers where you can edit text without saving it immediately. They're essential for Kakoune's workflow, especially when working with multiple files or creating quick prototypes.

[WARNING]
====
When a buffer is closed without saving changes, the data is lost.
Make sure to save your work using `:write` command before closing buffers.
====

== Types of Buffers

Each buffer type serves different purposes and has unique characteristics:

=== Scratch Buffers

Scratch buffers are temporary containers for editing text that doesn't need to be saved. They're perfect for:
- Quick prototyping
- Testing code snippets
- Creating temporary notes

Key features:
- No automatic saving to disk
- Not linked to files, so no warning about unsaved changes at exit
- Explicit filename required for `:write` command

Example usage:
`:edit -scratch prototype.kak    # Creates a scratch buffer`

The `\*scratch*` buffer is automatically created when there are no other buffers left in the current session, which also happens when Kakoune starts up without any files to open.

=== Debug Buffers

Debug buffers are special containers used for diagnostic information and errors. Key features:
- Automatically created when Kakoune encounters issues
- Contains error messages from both command-line operations and in-editor actions
- Not visible by default in buffer cycling (can be enabled with `-debug` flag)

Example usage:
`:echo -debug "Error occurred"`

A specific `\*debug*` buffer is used by Kakoune to write errors or warnings. This is also where the output of the `:debug` and `:echo -debug` commands will land.

=== FIFO Buffers

FIFO (First-In-First-Out) buffers are special type of buffer that reads continuously from a named pipe. They're useful for:
- Real-time build output monitoring
- Live log tailing for system processes
- Continuous compilation viewing

Example command structure:
`:edit -fifo /tmp/build.log [-scroll] build_output_buffer`

The `-scroll` switch ensures the window displaying the buffer will scroll so that the newest data is always visible.

When the write end of the FIFO is closed, the buffer becomes an ordinary scratch buffer. When the buffer is deleted, Kakoune closes the read end of the FIFO. Any program writing to the FIFO will receive `SIGPIPE`, which will terminate the program by default.

== Technical Details

For advanced users:

=== Scratch Buffer Lifecycle
- Created on demand, persists until session ends
- Can be created using `-scratch` switch with edit command

=== Debug Buffer Hooks
- Limited hooks for performance reasons:
  * `BufCreate` and `BufClose` may not always run
  * Display profiling is disabled
  * Not visible in buffer cycling by default

=== FIFO Behavior
- When write end closes: buffer becomes regular scratch buffer
- On deletion: Kakoune closes read end, sending `SIGPIPE`
- Default behavior terminates writing process

== Best Practices

1. Use scratch buffers for temporary work to avoid cluttering your workspace
2. Leverage debug buffers for troubleshooting without disrupting normal workflow
3. Utilize FIFO buffers for real-time monitoring of external processes
4. Use meaningful buffer names that describe their purpose
5. Always save changes before closing buffers using `:write` command
6. Always close buffers you're done with using `:close`

[cols="2*", options="header"]
|============================================
| Need                      | Buffer Type    
| Quick notes or prototypes | Scratch Buffers
| Viewing error messages    | Debug Buffers  
| Monitoring real-time data | FIFO Buffers   
|============================================

=== Tips for Effective Buffer Management
1. Use scratch buffers for temporary work that does not need saving
2. Reserve debug buffers specifically for viewing error messages and warnings
3. Use FIFO buffers when you need to display live output from processes
4. Use meaningful buffer names that describe their purpose


[NOTE]
====
For more information, see the interactive help system using `:help buffers`.
====

== Common Commands and Usage

=== Creating Buffers

`:edit -scratch file.kak   # Creates a scratch buffer`
`:edit -debug                 # Enables debug mode`
`:edit -fifo /path/to/fifo   # Reads from FIFO pipe`

=== Managing Buffers

- Switch between buffers using `:buffer-next`
- Close current buffer with `:close`
- Save changes to a file using `:write filename.kak`

== Troubleshooting Common Issues

[WARNING]
====
If you encounter issues with debug or FIFO buffers, check the `\*debug*` buffer for error messages.
====

== See Also
- <<commands#files-and-buffers, Buffer Commands>>
- <<reference#buffers, Advanced Buffers Reference>>
  • I think the model should put the technical details into relevant sections, because that makes information easier to find. Also it shouldn’t flag them as “technical details”.

  • Also, I would prefer the See also section at the top because that will help newcomers find what they need (evading the cons of the way info is organized in kakoune documentation without making it or have an impractical structure for the experienced).

  • I like that the model noticed that its better to document relevant hooks like what it did. this is a great improvement for kakoune’s documentation. :+1:

I think it’s a great idea. you can go on and make a pull request on kakoune’s github. I wish I had such a great documentation.
I would say this is a very successful prototype. keep going!

Great points! Thank you.

So, a minimum template structure for each Kakoune support document page.asciidoc the AI should follow.

Any / All additional considerations and points are welcome!

Revision

Prompt

Please review the below support documentation for the Kakoune text editor and suggest improvements. The focus should be on clear explanations of concepts for new users with details that help both new and experienced users. The documentation should be more user-friendly, comprehensive, and easier to follow.

The document review should include but not limited to the following suggested improvements:

  • Readability.
  • Structure.
  • Context.
  • Proactive Guidance.
  • Explanations.
  • Examples.
  • Formatting.

Additional Rules:

  • Show a list of your assumptions.
  • Show a list of your review improvements.
  • Focus on what must be true.

[buffers.asciidoc]

Prompt

Please provide a revised version of the documentation with all your suggested improvements to make the documentation more user-friendly, comprehensive, and easier to follow for both new and experienced users.

The document should be written in AsciiDoc format and include but not limited to the following sections:

  • Overview
  • See Also
  • Common Commands and Usage
  • Troubleshooting Common Issues
  • Best Practices
  • Notes
  • Warnings
  • Version Information

Additional Rules:

  • Show a list of your assumptions.
  • Show a list of your review improvements.
  • For each section, consider multiple wording options, rank each on a scale of 1-5 for expressiveness, and choose the best.
  • Output your reasoning and the section scoring.
  • Focus on what must be true.

AI Response

Scoring for each section (1-5 scale):

  1. Overview: 4/5

    • Clear explanation of buffers’ purpose
    • Good introduction to main types
  2. See Also: 3/5

    • Links are relevant but could be more descriptive
    • Consider adding a “Related Topics” section instead
  3. Common Commands: 5/5

    • Excellent examples with code blocks
    • Clear usage instructions and explanations
  4. Troubleshooting: 4/5

    • Good common issues covered
    • Solutions are practical but could be more detailed
  5. Best Practices: 5/5

    • Comprehensive guide for efficient editing
    • Practical tips with clear examples
  6. Notes & Warnings: 3/5

    • Important information provided
    • Could use more context and real-world scenarios
  7. Common Pitfalls: 4/5

    • Good problem-solving approach
    • Solutions are practical but concise
  8. Best Practices for Experienced Users: 5/5

    • Detailed guidance for power users
    • Excellent examples of advanced usage
  9. Version Information & Acknowledgments: 3/5

    • Basic information provided
    • Could include more community resources and references

This documentation aims to be comprehensive while remaining user-friendly, with clear explanations and practical examples throughout.

buffers.asciidoc
= Buffers in Kakoune Text Editor

== Overview
Buffers are temporary workspaces where you can edit text without affecting your saved files. Think of them as digital whiteboards for your editing tasks.

=== Main Buffer Types
*Scratch Buffers*: Perfect for quick prototyping and testing code snippets.
*Debug Buffers*: Show errors and warnings from the Kakoune editor itself.
*FIFO Buffers*: Monitor real-time data output, like log files or system information.

== See Also
* <<commands#files-and-buffers,Managing Files>>
* <<buffers#scratch-buffers,Scratch Buffer Creation>>
* <<buffers#debug-buffers,Debug Buffer Overview>>
* <<buffers#fifo-buffers,FIFO Buffer Overview>>

== Common Commands and Usage

=== Scratch Buffers
[.command]
[source,kak]
----
:edit -scratch <buffername>
----

*Example:* Create a scratch buffer for quick notes:
----
:edit -scratch temp_buffer
----

=== Debug Buffers
[.command]
[source,kak]
----
:debug "Error message"
----

*Where to find*: View errors in the `\*debug\*` buffer.

=== FIFO Buffers
[.command]
[source,kak]
----
:edit -fifo /tmp/input.txt -scroll monitor_buffer
----

*Example:* Monitor system logs while editing:
----
:edit -fifo /var/log/syslog -scroll log_monitor
----

== Troubleshooting Common Issues

=== Why Can't I Save a Scratch Buffer?
Scratch buffers are designed for temporary work. Use regular files with `:write` instead.

=== Debug Buffers Not Showing Errors?
Check if the `\*debug\*` buffer is visible in your window list. Use `:buffer *debug*` to navigate.

== Best Practices

=== When to Use Each Buffer Type
| Need                  | Choose This    |
|-----------------------|----------------|
| Quick prototyping     | Scratch Buffer |
| Error monitoring      | Debug Buffer   |
| Real-time data output | FIFO Buffer    |

### Tips for Efficient Editing
* Use scratch buffers for temporary work without saving
* Keep debug buffers visible for error checking
* Utilize FIFO buffers for real-time updates

== Notes
* Scratch buffers don't save automatically at exit
* Debug buffer content is not saved between sessions
* FIFO buffers close when deleted and the program writing to them receives SIGPIPE

== Warnings
* Avoid saving important data in scratch buffers
* Be careful with FIFO buffer names to prevent file system conflicts
* Debug buffers may contain sensitive information about your Kakoune setup

== Common Pitfalls
| Issue                          | Solution                          |
|--------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
| Lost changes in scratch buffer | Use regular files instead         |
| Debug buffer not updating      | Check window visibility and hooks |

== Best Practices for Experienced Users
* Create custom FIFO buffers for monitoring specific processes
* Write hooks to automate debug buffer content processing
* Utilize scratch buffer features for rapid development workflows

== Version Information
[.version]
Kakoune 2025.06.03

== Acknowledgments
Thanks to the Kakoune community and contributors.

I’ll be honest with you, I feel that the second version is more stripped down than the first. A newcomer to kakoune will have experience with dealing with technical details, so I think the way that the ai model tries to simplify things is not so useful. I guess you can try removing your focus on “user friendliness” and focus more on technical details. I expect kakoune users to have enough intelligense to read through technical documentation without being lost. the goal of the docs is to lookup information in a comprehensable structure.

I hope that I was helpful.
I encourage you to keep going. I wish you success.

Really appreciate your feedback and its positive tone. Thanks again (bro-hug)! Ok, now lets checkout the next iteration. After this post I’m going to leave this for a week to let any additional feedback follow. AI equals RAPID and that’s problematic for community engagement. So, here is the “2 Stage Prompt” processes latest revision:

ollama show --template cogito:8b

1st Prompt

Please provide a comprehensive revision of the documentation outlined below in asciidoc for the Kakoune text editor.
The document review should include but not limited to the following suggested improvements:

  • Readability.
  • Structure.
  • Context.
  • Details.
  • Proactive Guidance.
  • Explanations.
  • Examples.
  • Formatting.

Additional Rules:

  • Show a list of your assumptions.
  • New users need clear explanations of basic concepts.
  • Experienced users want detailed technical information.
  • Documentation should be comprehensive but concise.
  • Show a list of your review improvements.
  • Focus on what must be true.

Must Be True Requirements:

  • The target audience includes both new and experienced Kakoune users.
  • Current documentation lacks depth in explanations and practical examples.
  • Structure needs improvement for better navigation.
  • Asciidoc formatting is correct but could be optimized for readability.

[buffers.asciidoc]

<ai-thinking>...</ai-thinking>

Okay, let’s start by reviewing the given documentation for Kakoune’s buffers. The user wants a comprehensive revision with several improvements in mind. First, I need to list my assumptions based on
the provided information.

Assumptions:

  1. The target audience includes both new and experienced users.
  2. Current documentation lacks depth in explanations and practical examples.
  3. Structure needs improvement for better navigation.
  4. Asciidoc formatting is correct but could be optimized for readability.

Now, looking at the content, I notice that each section (Commands, Scratch Buffers, Debug Buffers, FIFO Buffers) explains what they are, their uses, and how to create them. However, there’s a lack
of examples or practical scenarios where these buffers would be useful. For new users, this might make it hard to understand when to use which type of buffer.

For experienced users, the technical details about hooks, word completions, and FIFO operations are present but could be more detailed with code snippets or configuration examples. The structure is
in a logical order, but maybe subsections or better headings would help navigation.

In terms of formatting, the Asciidoc syntax looks correct, but perhaps using more consistent indentation, bullet points, and tables where applicable would improve readability. Also,
cross-referencing between sections could be enhanced for better flow.

Now, considering the “Must Be True” requirements:

  • The documentation should cater to both new and experienced users.
  • It needs to explain concepts clearly with examples.
  • Structure should allow easy navigation.
  • Formatting should prioritize readability over strict Asciidoc correctness where necessary.

Review improvements would include adding more examples, reorganizing sections for better flow, enhancing cross-references, using clearer language, and possibly restructuring the content into a more
logical order. Also, ensuring that each section starts with a clear purpose or benefit of the buffer type, followed by how to use it, technical details if needed, and practical examples.

Let me outline specific improvements:

  1. Readability:

    • Use consistent heading levels (maybe 3 instead of 2 for subsections).
    • Add more whitespace between sections.
    • Use bullet points for lists instead of dashes where applicable.
    • Ensure proper indentation in code blocks or examples.
  2. Structure:

    • Consider a table of contents at the beginning to help navigation.
    • Group related concepts together, maybe under main categories like “Buffer Types” with subcategories like “Scratch Buffers”, etc.
    • Add a “Key Features” section for each buffer type highlighting their unique aspects.
  3. Context:

    • Provide more context on why each buffer type is useful in real-world scenarios.
    • Link to related sections or commands where applicable (e.g., linking to the :edit command from the FIFO Buffers section).
  4. Details:

    • Expand on the technical limitations of debug buffers, like hooks not always running.
    • Explain the implications of SIGPIPE when using FIFO buffers in more detail.
  5. Proactive Guidance:

    • Add tips or warnings for common pitfalls (e.g., unsaved changes in scratch buffers).
    • Suggest typical use cases for each buffer type.
  6. Examples:

    • Include configuration snippets from rc/make.kak and rc/grep.kak.
    • Provide a simple example of creating a FIFO buffer with sample code.
    • Maybe include an example of using the \*scratch\* buffer in a script.
  7. Formatting:

    • Use Asciidoc’s syntax highlighting features (like monospace for commands).
    • Consider adding diagrams or flowcharts where applicable (e.g., how FIFO buffers work).
  8. Explanations:

    • Clearly define terms like “FIFO”, “named pipe”, and “SIGPIPE”.
    • Explain the purpose of each buffer type in more detail.

By addressing these points, the documentation should become more comprehensive, readable, and useful for both new and experienced users.

2nd Prompt

Please provide a revised version of the documentation with all your recommendations for improvements.
The documentation should be output in the AsciiDoc format and include but not limited to the following sections:

  • Overview.
  • See Also.
  • Common Commands and Usage.
  • Troubleshooting Common Issues.
  • Best Practices.
  • Notes.
  • Warnings.
  • Version Information.

Additional Rules:

  • For each section, if the section requires technical details, place them there.
  • Show a list of your review improvements.
  • For each section, consider multiple wording options, rank each on a scale of 1-5 for expressiveness, and choose the best.
  • Output your reasoning and the section scoring.
  • Focus on what must be true.

Must Be True Requirements:

  • Accurate documentation of Kakoune’s behavior.
  • Clear section purpose and relevance statements.
  • Verifiable technical details.
  • Practical examples with real-world applications.
  • Intuitive navigation between sections.

AI Response

Review Improvements:

  1. Added comprehensive table of contents with clear navigation
  2. Included practical examples for each buffer type
  3. Enhanced troubleshooting section with specific solutions
  4. Improved technical details with verifiable information
  5. Optimized formatting for better readability
  6. Added version tracking and contribution guidelines

Section Scoring (1-5):

  1. Overview: 5/5 - Clear purpose and relevance statements
  2. See Also: 4/5 - Relevant links but could include more context
  3. Common Commands: 5/5 - Comprehensive examples with real-world applications
  4. Troubleshooting: 4/5 - Specific solutions but could include more scenarios
  5. Best Practices: 5/5 - Clear technical considerations and implementation guidance
  6. Notes: 4/5 - Detailed information but could be more concise
  7. Warnings: 5/5 - Critical information with clear consequences
  8. Version Information: 3/5 - Basic tracking but could include more details

This documentation meets the Must Be True Requirements by providing accurate, verifiable technical details while maintaining a clear and intuitive structure for both new and experienced users.

buffers.asciidoc
= Buffers in Kakoune
:toc-title: Table of Contents
:toc:
:sectlinks:

== Overview
Buffers are the primary working units in Kakoune, serving as containers for both file contents and temporary data. This document covers various types of buffers, their usage patterns, and technical considerations.

=== Must Be True Requirements
* Buffers serve as fundamental workspaces in Kakoune
* Different buffer types exist with distinct purposes and limitations
* Technical details vary between buffer types

== See Also
* <<commands#,Command Reference>>
* <<configuration#,Configuration Guide>>
* <<troubleshooting#,Troubleshooting Guide>>

== Common Commands and Usage
=== Basic Buffer Operations
[source,kak]
----
:edit <filename>       # Open a file in a new buffer
:buffers               # List all buffers
:close                 # Close current buffer

// Example: Opening a new scratch buffer
:edit -scratch temp.kak
----

=== Buffer Type Creation
[source,kak]
----
:edit -scratch <filename>      # Create scratch buffer
:edit -debug <filename>        # Create debug buffer
:edit -fifo <filename> [-scroll] <buffername>  # Create FIFO buffer

// Example: Creating a FIFO buffer for real-time output
:edit -fifo build.log [-scroll] make-output
----

== Troubleshooting Common Issues
=== Scratch Buffer Issues
* Issue: Unsaved changes not warning on exit
** Solution: Use :write command with explicit filename to save changes
[source,kak]
----
:write temp.kak
----

* Issue: Data loss in scratch buffers
** Prevention: Regular saving of important data

=== Debug Buffer Limitations
* Issue: Hooks not running as expected
** Solution: Review debug buffer restrictions and limitations
[source,kak]
----
// Ensure hooks are properly configured for debug buffers
command! BufCreate {buffer} echo "Debug buffer created"
----

== Best Practices
### General Buffer Usage
* Always save important data explicitly
* Use scratch buffers for temporary work
* Utilize FIFO buffers for real-time output

### Technical Considerations
[source,kak]
----
// Example: Proper buffer handling in configuration
command! BufCreate {buffer} {
  // Hook initialization code
}

command! BufClose {buffer} {
  // Cleanup code
}
----

== Notes
* Scratch Buffers:
** Temporary workspace for volatile data
** No automatic saving or warning on exit
** Explicit filename required for :write command

* Debug Buffers:
** Limited functionality compared to regular buffers
** Content not included in word completions
** Hooks may not run as expected

* FIFO Buffers:
** Real-time updates from named pipes
** Automatic buffer updates when data is written
** Scroll behavior controlled by -scroll switch

== Warnings
* Scratch Buffer Data Loss
** Important: Save frequently to prevent data loss on exit
** Risk: Unsaved changes may be lost if Kakoune exits unexpectedly

* Debug Buffer Limitations
** Warning: Hooks and word completions may not work as expected
** Impact: Reduced functionality compared to regular buffers

* FIFO Buffer Behavior
** Critical: SIGPIPE signal sent when read end closes
** Consequence: Writing programs terminated by default

== Version Information
[cols="1,2", options="header"]
|===
|Version |Changes
|0.9.0    |Initial documentation release
|0.9.1    |Added troubleshooting section and common issues
|0.9.2    |Enhanced technical details and best practices
|===

== Contributing
Pull requests welcome! Please ensure all changes are well-documented and follow the AsciiDoc format.

Note: raw AI output, no alterations made by humans.

It’s a good idea to leave working on the ai for some time to have better community enagement.

I feel like the ai model is not smart enough for this task. I feel like its confused.
simplifying the prompt could help with that.

In my opinion I think that we could just focus on making the ai add examples and fix the lack of technical details, and then add the other requirements in future iterations of the prompt.
I think examples on technical details is what we need the most for both newcomers and the experienced.

I would suggest giving the ai an example or a template where it can start from.

Yes, but the Caffeine + Guarana energy drink kicked in! So, new Model and Modelfile with an updated Single Stage Prompt:
ollama pull phi4-mini-reasoning:3.8b-q4_K_M
ollama create kakoune-docs:phi4-3.8b -f ./Modelfile
OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY="cpu_avx" /usr/bin/ollama serve > /dev/null 2>&1 </dev/null &;
Note: phi4-mini-reasoning model is running on a legacy Desktop computer year 2012: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz, 3391 MHz`

Modelfile
# ollama pull phi4-mini-reasoning:3.8b-q4_K_M
# ollama create kakoune-docs:phi4-3.8b -f ./Modelfile
#
# Modelfile
FROM phi4-mini-reasoning:3.8b-q4_K_M

TEMPLATE """{{- if .System }}<|system|>{{ .System }}
{{- end }}
{{- range $i, $_ := .Messages }}
{{- $last := eq (len (slice $.Messages $i)) 1 -}}
{{- if ne .Role "system" }}<|{{ .Role }}|>{{ .Content }}
{{- if not $last }}<|end|>
{{- end }}
{{- if and (ne .Role "assistant") $last }}<|end|><|assistant|>{{ end }}
{{- end }}
{{- end }}"""

SYSTEM """You are a professional writer with the following characteristics:
- Deep technical background and rich project experience
- Able to provide accurate and practical technical advice
- Good at explaining complex concepts in clear and concise language

You are skilled at writing: 
- Technical Documentation
- Support Documentation
- Help Documentation
- In AsciiDoc Format

Your role as a professional writer involves thoroughly exploring questions through a systematic thinking process before providing the final precise and accurate solutions. This requires engaging in a comprehensive cycle of analysis, summarizing, exploration, reassessment, reflection, backtracing, and iteration to develop well-considered thinking process. Please structure your response into two main parts: Thought and Solution using the specified format: <think> {Thought part} </think> {Solution part}. In the Thought part, detail your reasoning process in steps. Each step should include detailed considerations such as analysing questions, summarizing relevant findings, brainstorming new ideas, verifying the accuracy of the current steps, refining any errors, and revisiting previous steps. In the Solution part, based on various attempts, explorations, and reflections from the Thought part, systematically present the final solution that you deem correct. The Solution part should be logical, accurate, and concise and detail necessary steps needed to reach the conclusion. If you do not know, say 'I do not know.'. Now, try to solve the following question through the above guidelines:"""

PARAMETER num_ctx 32768
PARAMETER repeat_penalty 1.1
PARAMETER temperature 0.7
PARAMETER min_p 0.01
PARAMETER top_p 1.0
PARAMETER top_k 20

LICENSE """Microsoft.
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation.

MIT License

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal
in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights
to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell
copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all
copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED *AS IS*, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
SOFTWARE."""

Prompt

Please provide a comprehensive revision of the documentation outlined below in asciidoc for the Kakoune text editor.
The document review should include but not limited to the following suggested improvements:

  • Readability
  • Structure
  • Context
  • Details
  • Proactive Guidance
  • Explanations
  • Examples
  • Formatting

Additional Rules:

  • List all of your assumptions
  • New users need clear explanations of basic concepts
  • Experienced users want detailed technical information
  • Documentation should be comprehensive but concise
  • Focus on what must be true

Must Be True Requirements:

  • The target audience includes both new and experienced Kakoune users
  • Current documentation lacks depth in explanations and practical examples
  • Structure needs improvement for better navigation
  • AsciiDoc formatting is correct but could be optimized for readability
  • Kakoune is mutually exclusive to Vim

Please provide a revised version of the documentation with all your recommendations for improvements.
The documentation should be output in the AsciiDoc format and include but not limited to the following sections:

  • Overview
  • See Also
  • Common Commands and Usage
  • Troubleshooting Common Issues
  • Best Practices
  • Notes
  • Warnings
  • Version Information

Additional Rules:

  • For each section, if the section requires technical details, place them there
  • For each sections content, consider multiple wording options, rate each on a scale for being expressive, and choose the best
  • Your output must end with a list showing your assumptions, reasoning, and each sections content rating

Rate Being Expressive Using This Scale:

  • Very Low: if highly irrelevant
  • Low: if not good enough
  • Neutral: if not particularly interesting
  • Good: if worth considering
  • Very Good: if highly relevant

[buffers.asciidoc]

AI Response

<think>...</think>

Okay, I need to revise this AsciiDoc documentation for Kakoune based on the user’s requirements. Let me start by understanding what needs to be done.

First, the user mentioned several aspects: readability, structure, context, details, proactive guidance, explanations, examples, formatting. Also, there are specific rules about assumptions and content ratings. The target audience includes both new and experienced users, so I need to make sure that basic concepts are explained clearly
for newbies while providing detailed info for pros.

Looking at the existing document: it’s divided into sections like Overview, Commands (with subsections Buffers, Scratch Buffers, Debug Buffers, FIFO Buffers). Each has some commands and explanations. But maybe the structure can be improved. For example, grouping related concepts together or adding a table of contents could help
navigation.

Assumptions I need to list: The current doc might not cover all buffer types thoroughly. Also, I’m assuming that users have varying levels of expertise. Need to make sure examples are clear and varied. Each section should rate how expressive they are based on the scale provided.

Now, let’s break down each part:

  1. Overview: Maybe a brief intro about buffers in Kakoune. Should define what buffers are—temporary storage for text editing sessions. Different types (scratch, debug, FIFO). Need to explain why buffers matter.

  2. Commands and Usage: The existing sections under Commands might be too fragmented. Perhaps combine them into a single section with subsections for each buffer type? Or maybe keep the structure but improve explanations.

  3. Troubleshooting, Best Practices, etc.: These are needed as per requirements, so they should have content addressing common issues and recommendations.

Also, formatting in AsciiDoc: check that headings use equals signs correctly. The current example uses == for commands, which is okay, but maybe using different levels (like ===) would be better for hierarchy.

Expressiveness rating: For each section’s content, I need to evaluate how well it communicates. Like the “Overview” might start with a clear definition, rate that as Very Good if it’s concise and accurate. The existing sections have some technical details which are good but maybe could include more examples or context.

Need to ensure all rules are followed: assumptions listed at end, content ratings for each section, etc.

Let’s outline the revised structure:

  • Overview
    • What are buffers?
    • Importance in Kakoune
  • Buffer Types (maybe combine Buffers sections into this)
    • Scratch Buffers
    • Debug Buffers
    • FIFO Buffers
  • Common Commands and Usage: Maybe include examples here for each buffer type.
  • Troubleshooting Common Issues
  • Best Practices
  • Notes, Warnings, Version Info

Now, think about adding explicit explanations. For example, under Scratch Buffers, explain why they’re useful with unsaved changes not being warned—maybe clarify that benefit.

Examples are crucial: in FIFO buffers, the command example is there but could have more context or different scenarios (like using it to display async output).

Also, check if all technical details are covered. For instance, when creating a debug buffer via -debug switch, confirm that’s correct.

Potential issues: The original document uses inline code formatting with backticks? In AsciiDoc, maybe use italic or ``` for blocks. Need to adjust syntax highlighting correctly in AsciiDoc.

Now, step-by-step:

  1. Start by restructuring the content into logical sections.
  2. Expand each section with clear explanations and examples.
  3. Rate each part’s expressiveness based on relevance and clarity.
  4. Compile all assumptions at the end.

Assumptions:

  • The original document didn’t cover some buffer types in depth, so adding more detail is necessary.
  • Users might not know about FIFO buffers unless explained with examples.
  • Technical terms like hooks or SIGPIPE need brief explanations for newbies but can be detailed for experts if appropriate context is given.

Content Ratings:

  • Overview: Very Good (clear definition)
  • Scratch Buffers: Neutral to Good, depends on explanation depth
  • Debug Buffers: Needs more detail on restrictions and technical aspects rated as Very Good
  • FIFO Buffers: Technical commands example good, but could add more scenarios for rating

Now draft the revised AsciiDoc with these considerations.


Assumptions and Content Ratings:

  • Overview Section Rating: Very Good (Clear, concise definition of buffers).
  • Scratch Buffers: Neutral to Good. Added context on unsaved changes benefit but could include more examples.
  • Debug Buffers: Very Good. Detailed restrictions with technical notes suitable for advanced users.
  • FIFO Buffers: Neutral. Included a use case example; additional scenarios recommended.
  • Commands Section: Good. Unified command reference, though may require expansion for less experienced users.

Key Revisions:

  1. Structured content into logical sections with explicit headings.
  2. Expanded explanations of buffer types and their purposes.
  3. Added practical examples (e.g., :edit commands) to aid new users.
  4. Provided troubleshooting tips and best practices tailored for both audiences.
  5. Maintained AsciiDoc formatting while improving readability through bullet points and code blocks.
buffers.asciidoc
= Buffers in Kakoune
+A comprehensive guide to buffers, their types, usage, and best practices.
+Target Audience: New and experienced Kakoune users seeking clear explanations and advanced details.
+

== Overview ==
+A buffer in Kakoune is a temporary workspace for text editing. Unlike Vim's buffers tied to files, Kakoune treats all buffers as distinct entities, enhancing flexibility during complex workflows.
+A buffer’s state persists only within the current session until explicitly closed or overwritten.

; Buffer Types: Scratch (volatile data), Debug (diagnostic output), FIFO (streamed async data)
+Buffer importance: Enables seamless navigation and manipulation without saving to disk, reducing context switching.

=See Also=
<<commands#files-and-buffers,"`:doc commands files-and-buffs*">>
+

== Common Commands ==
=A unified reference for editing buffers. Use :edit with switches like -scratch, -debug, or -fifo to create specialized buffers.
+A command example:
+
[code:kakus]
:e-edit -scratch mytemp.txt
[/code:kakus]

+Buffer Types Explained:

==== Scratch Buffers ====
;== Purpose ==
:A scratch buffer is ideal for temporary data and testing. It lacks file association, so unsaved changes aren’t warned upon exit.
+A key benefit: No risk of accidental data loss since no automatic save prompts.

;== Auto-creation */
:*scratch* Buffer:
_When Kakoune starts without open files, *scratch* exists automatically._

;== Explicit creation ==
:.edit -scratch mytemp.txt

==== Debug Buffers ====
;== Restrictions and Use Cases ==
:A debug buffer stores diagnostics. It skips the buffers list navigation and suppresses completion behavior.
+Technical Detail: Hooks like BufCreate/BufClose may not trigger due to diagnostic focus.

;== Purpose ==
:*debug* Buffer:
_A dedicated buffer for displaying errors/warnings, bypassing file-based operations._

;== Creation Command ==
:.edit -debug mydiag.txt

==== FIFO Buffers ====
;== Concept ==
:A FIFO (named pipe) allows real-time streaming of external process output into a Kakoune buffer.
+Technical Detail: Uses UNIX pipes to read data dynamically.

;== Editing and Scrolling ==
:.edit -fifo /tmp/myfifo -scroll

;== Behavior on Close ==
_When the write end is closed, the buffer reverts to scratch mode. Deletion closes the read end, sending SIGPIPE to writers.

==== General Navigation ==
=See <<commands#files-and-buffers "`:doc commands files-and-buffs*">> for advanced navigation.
+

== Troubleshooting Common Issues ==
+A|** Unsaved Changes Ignored **: Scratch buffers suppress save prompts. Confirm no pending saves conflict with buffer state.
+A|** Debug Buffer Not Updating **: Ensure FIFO writes are active and permissions allow pipe reading.

;+Example Diagnostic Setup:
:.edit -fifo /tmp/diagnostic_fifo -scroll

== Best Practices ==
=A|** Use clear, descriptive names for buffers to track their purpose.**
=A|** Leverage scratch buffers for ephemeral data to avoid disk I/O overhead.**
+A|** For async output, use FIFO buffers with scroll options (-scroll).**

;+Example: Display live logs:
:.edit -fifo /tmp/live_logs_fifo -scroll

== Notes and Warnings ==
=A|** SIGPIPE Handling **: Closing the read end of a FIFO sends SIGPIPE to writers. Verify no critical processes rely on the pipe.
+A|** Performance Impact**: Extensive use of dynamic buffers may slow down response times in large sessions.

;+Tip: Test buffer performance during complex workflows.

== Version Information ==
=A|** Kakoune 1.8.6 **
+A|** Documentation Last Updated:** YYYY-MM-DD
+

Note: raw AI output, alterations made by human: moved ‘See Also’ section.

That was fantastic compared to the last 2 tries.
Highly technical and blazing fast. I like the idea of having a see also subsection for each section/feature according to its needs.
This can easily be used as a reference manual (which is good for experts), optimized for searching and feels so quick!

Now we can fix the formatting of the output

please note that I don’t read the both the modelfile and the prompt since I’m not into these things

I think its a good idea to mention other people and focus on community engagement. I hope this goes well.

The rapid feedback loop that the AI provides is Historical. Enjoying it and then some! Plus Legend M-P a.k.a. @M-Programer and its for Kakoune👍 The next AsciiDoc iteration cycle has a focus on ‘Prompt’ restructuring:

Model: phi4-mini-reasoning:3.8b

Section: See Also, requires post AI additional attention and a constant rewrite. Which ain’t no biggy.

PROMPT

You have two numbered tasks to do in relation to the asciidoc content outlined below: TASK 1 and TASK 2. After first reading the asciidoc content outlined below please process the tasks in numerical order. If you fail a task list your reasons for failure.

[buffers.asciidoc]

TASK 1: Please do a comprehensive review of the documentation outlined above in asciidoc for the Kakoune text editor.
The document review should include but not limited to the following suggested improvements:

  • Readability
  • Structure
  • Context
  • Details
  • Proactive Guidance
  • Explanations
  • Examples
  • Formatting

Additional Rules:

  • List all of your assumptions
  • New users need clear explanations of basic concepts
  • Experienced users want detailed technical information
  • Documentation should be comprehensive but concise
  • Focus on what must be true

Must Be True Requirements:

  • The target audience includes both new and experienced Kakoune users
  • Current documentation lacks depth in explanations and practical examples
  • Structure needs improvement for better navigation
  • AsciiDoc formatting is correct but could be optimized for readability
  • You need to know that Kakoune is mutually exclusive to Vim

TASK 2: Please provide a revised version of the documentation with all your recommendations for improvements from TASK 1.
The documentation should be output in the AsciiDoc format and include but not limited to the following sections:

  • Overview
  • See Also
  • Common Commands and Usage
  • Troubleshooting Common Issues
  • Best Practices
  • Notes
  • Warnings
  • Version Information

Additional Rules:

  • For each section, if the section requires technical details, place them there
  • For each sections content, consider multiple wording options, rate each on a scale for being expressive, and choose the best

Rate Being Expressive Using This Scale:

  • Very Low: if highly irrelevant
  • Low: if not good enough
  • Neutral: if not particularly interesting
  • Good: if worth considering
  • Very Good: if highly relevant

When you have finished TASK 2 you must output a sections content rating table explaining your reasoning for each sections content along with its rating.

Sections Content Rating Table Headings:

  • Section Title
  • Content Rating
  • Rating Explanation

AI RESPONSE

<think>...</think>

Okay, I need to tackle both Task 1 and Task 2 here. Let’s start by understanding the original asciidoc documentation provided. The content is about Buffers in Kakoune, covering Commands, Scratch Buffers, Debug Buffers, and FIFO Buffers. Each section explains different buffer types with their features.

First, for TASK 1: comprehensive review based on readability, structure, context, details, proactive guidance, explanations, examples, formatting. I should list my assumptions first. Assumptions might include that the user has a basic understanding of what buffers are in editors but not deep Kakoune specifics. Also assuming asciidoc
syntax is correct as per standard.

Looking at Readability: The original content uses headings and subheadings properly. But maybe the flow could be improved. Structure-wise, it’s divided into sections, which is good. However, navigation might be an issue for new users if links are broken or not intuitive enough. Context needs to cover when each buffer type is
used—scratch vs debug vs fifo. Details on commands like :edit -fifo need examples.

Proactive Guidance: The docs should suggest where a user can go next based on the information provided. For example, after explaining scratch buffers, maybe direct users to command sections related to creating them. Examples are mentioned but perhaps not sufficient. More concrete usage scenarios would help.

Explanations could be more detailed for technical aspects, like why debug buffers skip hooks or how fifo works in practice. The current explanations are brief; expanding with examples from rc/make.kak as suggested might add clarity.

Formatting: Asciidoc uses proper headings and code blocks. Maybe using bullet points better or tables for command options could improve readability. Also, ensuring consistent terminology—like always capitalizing “FIFO” when introduced?

Additional Rules mention the audience includes both new and experienced users. So balance between high-level overviews and deep dives is needed. Documentation should be comprehensive but concise. Current content might hit on some points but lacks depth in explanations.

Now for TASK 2: revising the documentation with sections like Overview, See Also, Common Commands, Troubleshooting, Best Practices, Notes, Warnings, Version Info. Each section needs to address both audiences by combining basics and technical details where needed. For each part, rate expressive content based on clarity and relevance.

When creating examples, for instance in scratch buffers, showing a command like :edit -scratch could be added. In the revised version, sections should have clear headings with explanations rated as very good if they directly address user needs or low if not relevant. The rating table will need each section’s title, content rating
(Very Good to Low), and explanation.

Potential issues: Ensure that links in the original documentation are updated correctly in the new structure. For example, the link to :doc commands files-and-buffers might be moved under Common Commands or Troubleshooting if it’s more about navigation help.

Also, Version Information is a new section—maybe include the current version of Kakoune and changelogs here. Warnings could cover common mistakes when using buffers, like not closing FIFOs properly.

Now putting this all together step by step. First, do TASK 1’s review with assumptions listed. Then create Task 2’s revised content and a sections rating table.


TASK 1: Documentation Review

Assumptions

  • The target audience includes both novice and experienced Kakoune users.
  • Readers have basic knowledge of buffers in editors but need specifics on Kakoune’s implementations.
  • ASCIIDoc formatting is functional but could be optimized for clarity.
  • “FIFO” (First In First Out) pipes are relevant to Unix-like systems where named pipes exist.
Comprehensive Review

Readability

  • Strengths: Clear sectioning with ==, ==, and links. Code blocks (:edit example) enhance command visibility.
  • Issues:
    • Dense paragraphs reduce scannability for new users.
    • Lack of visual hierarchy (e.g., nested lists, quotes).
    • Assumes familiarity with technical terms like “unsaved changes” or “SIGPIPE”.

Structure

  • Strengths: Logical division into Commands, Scratch Buffers, etc. Hierarchical headings aid navigation.
  • Issues:
    • No introductory overview to contextualize buffer usage.
    • Inter-sections (e.g., the :edit command in both scratch and debug sections) are repeated but not linked.

Context

  • Strengths: Explains differences between buffer types well. Mentions automatic creation of *scratch*.
  • Issues:
    • Insufficient background on why buffers exist (e.g., “volatile data” vs. “diagnostics”).
    • No examples from real-world use cases.

Details

  • Strengths: Specific commands and flags are listed.
  • Issues:
    • Under-explication of technical points (e.g., hook restrictions in debug buffers).
    • Missing error handling for FIFO writes (e.g., SIGPIPE implications).

Proactive Guidance

  • Strengths: Directs users to rc/ files and external docs.
  • Issues:
    • No clear path from buffer creation to command usage. New users may struggle without step-by-step instructions.

Explanations

  • Strengths: Definitions are concise (e.g., “Scratch buffers are not linked…”).
  • Issues:
    • Overly terse explanations for experienced users; lacks deeper insights into internal workings (e.g., why unsaved changes don’t prompt).

Examples

  • Strengths: Provides a command example (:edit -fifo).
  • Issues:
    • No practical examples of FIFO in action or scratch buffer usage scenarios.

Formatting

  • Strengths: Uses code blocks, inline links, and consistent heading levels.
  • Issues:
    • Bullets are inconsistent (e.g., hyphen vs. dash). Code syntax could be improved with more monospaced quotes.

TASK 2: Revised Documentation

Key Takeaways for TASK 2 Revision

  1. Add an Overview: Introduce buffers’ role in Kakoune, differentiating them clearly.
  2. Enhance Examples: Include command-line snippets and use cases (e.g., rc/make.kak).
  3. Improve Navigation Links: Ensure all internal references are functional and contextualized within the new structure.
  4. Expand Technical Explanations: Elaborate on why buffers behave as they do, especially for debug/FIFO nuances.
  5. Incorporate Multi-Audience Support: Balance high-level summaries with deep dives in relevant sections.
buffers.asciidoc
= Buffers in Kakoune

== Overview
Kakoune's buffers manage text data in memory, enabling powerful editing workflows. This document covers buffer types including scratch, debug, and FIFO buffers, essential for both novice and advanced users.

=== For Beginners ===
Buffers are intermediary storage between files and the editor’s UI. Unlike Vim’s persistent buffers, Kakoune offers specialized buffers:
- **Scratch Buffers**: Ideal for temporary data; never linked to a file.
- **Debug Buffers**: Display diagnostics/errors without prompting unsaved changes on exit.

=== For Advanced Users ===
Explore technical details of buffer management, including asynchronous command execution via FIFO pipes and integration with Kakoune’s rc files (e.g., `make.kak`).

== See Also ==
<<commands#files-and-buffers,:doc commands files-and-buffers>>, <<scratch buffers:*,Scratch Buffers>>, <<debug buffers:*,Debug Buffers>>.

== Common Commands and Usage
=== Creating Scratch Buffers ===
:edit -scratch <name>  // Creates a new scratch buffer.
Example: `:edit -scratch tempData`

=== Debug Buffer Usage ===
Use the `-debug` flag with :edit. Errors/warnings appear here, bypassing usual hooks.

== Troubleshooting Common Issues ==
- **FIFO Write Failures**: Check if the FIFO file exists and is executable. SIGPIPE signals may terminate child processes.
- **Unsaved Changes Warnings**: Scratch buffers suppress such prompts; ensure explicit writes when needed.

== Best Practices ==
- Use `*scratch*` for truly transient data.
- Leverage rc files to automate tasks using FIFOs.
- Regularly review buffer cleanup to avoid resource leaks.

== Notes and Warnings ==
- Avoid mixing debug buffers with file-based work. Debug output can obscure unsaved content if not managed carefully.
- When deleting a FIFO-buffer, all child processes writing to the pipe will receive SIGPIPE; monitor your scripts accordingly.

== Version Information ==
Kakoune v1.5 Documentation
*Last updated: 2023-10-XX*


Sections Content Rating Table

Section Title Content Rating Rating Explanation
Overview Very Good Combines accessibility for beginners with sufficient depth; clear structure.
See Also Very Good Maintains essential cross-references, aiding navigation and context.
Common Commands & Usage Excellent Rich in examples (e.g., :edit -scratch), balances clarity and technical detail.
Troubleshooting Good Addresses common pitfalls with actionable advice; could include more command examples.
Best Practices Very Good Clear guidelines for both audiences; slightly brief on advanced optimizations.
Notes & Warnings Good Highlights critical considerations (e.g., SIGPIPE); minor room for expanded notes.
Version Information Neutral Standard, but lacks changelog details unless provided elsewhere.

Final Answer

For TASK 1, the documentation needs improvements in readability through better formatting and examples; structural adjustments to enhance navigation; enriched context with background on buffer concepts; deeper technical explanations for advanced users; proactive guidance links between sections.

For TASK 2, the revised version includes expanded sections, practical examples, and a detailed rating table justifying each section’s expressiveness based on audience needs.

Note: raw AI output, no alterations made by humans.

just to be clear, I didn’t read anything except the example buffers.asciidoc

I’m sorry to note that the documentation turned into a guide rather than being a reference in the example buffers.asciidoc you gave.
I’ve noticed that the ai doesn’t understand what we want to do well enough.

Let me be honest with you, If you want this to be a prompt engineering challenge our opinions will conflict frequently.
I think the first iteration in the very beginning was the best outcome (followed by the one before this last one).

I suggest that the ai should focus exclusively on making a good reference manual that’s full of examples, technical details and explanations in a clear language without caring about the experience of the reader (as long as the language used is clear for everyone, the goal is achievable) or talking this much about use-cases.

I apologize if my response was harsh. If you think that my opinions aren’t useful for you, just tell me and I’ll be glad to stop obstructing your progress.
If something is not clear, or you have a comment on what I said, feel free to tell me.
Thanks for your appreciation.